The math errors make the entire table highly dubious. A real scientist would have just splatted the data into Excel or a similar program and let it figure out all the percentages. Then copy and paste the result into Word or whatever. Nobody hand-jams a table any more (nor in 2001), unless for some publication reason they have to.
It's enough to make me want to ask the alma mater (the "California School of Professional Psychology, Fresno, California") if they even had a Marie Tomeo being a PhD. student there in the late '90s.
Looking back I can see signs of my sexuality from my early teenage years. I didn't admit the truth to myself until I was 28. I was not molested. I suspect a biased sample, especially from "researchers" who can't be bothered to check and recheck basic math. That doesn't even enter into concluding causation when, even if the data is accurate, they've only proved correlation.
Lapeer County Prosecutor John Miller says he may file criminal charges against employees or officials of the Lapeer District Library if an LGBTQ-themed graphic novel isn’t removed from the shelves.
Librarian Churchill countered that Miller and other conservatives in the community are only objecting to an LGBTQ book with illustrations of sex acts, but not to books like “The Joy of Sex,” which depict sex acts by heterosexual couples, which is also housed at the library.
The damage this “study” has caused will barely be changed by this milquetoast correction. For example, my mother, despite any correction or calls for empathy from me, believes all LGBT people have been molested and she has worked closely with lots of them including a transgender woman. She even wondered who molested good friend who took me to prom when he came out. Most recently my daughter informed my mom of her bisexuality, and my mother’s response was to to say “I’m sorry.” As though she knows daughter was molested, when she has not.
The point is, my mother does not read studies, or Fake Concern For Family Disguising White Supremacy organization propaganda. And yet she’s convinced that no one was ever just gay, they all had to be victims of molestation. This is something that persists because of ignorance that becomes willful after a while.
The study doesn’t seem to account for the fact that LGBT folks are targets for molestation. Oftentimes disguised as corrective therapy. Or just because LGBT people are different and therefore have a target on them for it.
So what this and the other studies (whether the conclusions are correct or not, and they’re not) tell me is that we need to address molestation, rape, and sexual assault with real and effective solutions rather than further victimize people who have survived assaults. Vilify the Andrew Tates of the world rather than march for their freedom when they’re caught committing crimes.
Meanwhile an epidemic of pastors, bishops, and other clergymen getting busted, convicted, and imprisoned for child abuse, porn, sodomy, and molestation continues..
Charming. Apparently, to butcher an old Barry Goldwater quote: Dishonesty in the pursuit of castigating the LGBTQ+ community is no vice. At least it isn't in the eyes of Ms. Tomeo or those who promoted her badly-conceived piece. Yet over 20 years later, people are still hanging their hat on this bit of so-called "research" as a reason to justify their bigotry. Once again, the whiff of desperation on the part of those right-wing reactionaries who would have us discount but dismiss our community is strong enough that one could be tempted to resort to nose plugs. Dr. Throckmorton clearly understood this in his response, but I can't help but notice that no one, certainly none on Ms. Tomeo's side of the argument, has either noticed or expressed concern.
Thankfully, at least Hemant has called bullshit here and rightly so. What we need now are a LOT more people like him, doing the same thing.
The party of personal liberty and freedom seems to have alot of problems with other people's exercise of their personal liberty and freedom. Of course, it all stems from their Jesus (/Allah/Yahweh) Delusion. Religion is what ensures non-acceptance of reality. Thanks, Paul--you done good.
Far more horrors have been perpetrated in the name of religion, than homosexuality. In fact, I don't know of any war ever fought over gayness.
The math errors make the entire table highly dubious. A real scientist would have just splatted the data into Excel or a similar program and let it figure out all the percentages. Then copy and paste the result into Word or whatever. Nobody hand-jams a table any more (nor in 2001), unless for some publication reason they have to.
It's enough to make me want to ask the alma mater (the "California School of Professional Psychology, Fresno, California") if they even had a Marie Tomeo being a PhD. student there in the late '90s.
Looking back I can see signs of my sexuality from my early teenage years. I didn't admit the truth to myself until I was 28. I was not molested. I suspect a biased sample, especially from "researchers" who can't be bothered to check and recheck basic math. That doesn't even enter into concluding causation when, even if the data is accurate, they've only proved correlation.
Not really OT:
Lapeer County Prosecutor John Miller says he may file criminal charges against employees or officials of the Lapeer District Library if an LGBTQ-themed graphic novel isn’t removed from the shelves.
Librarian Churchill countered that Miller and other conservatives in the community are only objecting to an LGBTQ book with illustrations of sex acts, but not to books like “The Joy of Sex,” which depict sex acts by heterosexual couples, which is also housed at the library.
https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-government/michigan-prosecutor-mulls-charging-lapeer-library-over-lgbtq-book
The damage this “study” has caused will barely be changed by this milquetoast correction. For example, my mother, despite any correction or calls for empathy from me, believes all LGBT people have been molested and she has worked closely with lots of them including a transgender woman. She even wondered who molested good friend who took me to prom when he came out. Most recently my daughter informed my mom of her bisexuality, and my mother’s response was to to say “I’m sorry.” As though she knows daughter was molested, when she has not.
The point is, my mother does not read studies, or Fake Concern For Family Disguising White Supremacy organization propaganda. And yet she’s convinced that no one was ever just gay, they all had to be victims of molestation. This is something that persists because of ignorance that becomes willful after a while.
The study doesn’t seem to account for the fact that LGBT folks are targets for molestation. Oftentimes disguised as corrective therapy. Or just because LGBT people are different and therefore have a target on them for it.
So what this and the other studies (whether the conclusions are correct or not, and they’re not) tell me is that we need to address molestation, rape, and sexual assault with real and effective solutions rather than further victimize people who have survived assaults. Vilify the Andrew Tates of the world rather than march for their freedom when they’re caught committing crimes.
Meanwhile an epidemic of pastors, bishops, and other clergymen getting busted, convicted, and imprisoned for child abuse, porn, sodomy, and molestation continues..
Sovereign citizen is dead. NOT a Florida man. https://www.yahoo.com/autos/sovereign-citizen-driver-killed-during-173000290.html
Wasn't Mary molested by a heterosexual deity disguised as a bird?
OT - The spoiled-brat / sore-loser wing of the Republican party is taking some pretty thick liberties in Red states these days:
https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/14/politics/crime-conflict-red-states-blue-states-fault-lines/index.html
OT - More proof consewertives refuse to think
𝐑𝐨𝐧 𝐃𝐞𝐒𝐚𝐧𝐭𝐢𝐬’ '𝐡𝐨𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐥𝐞 𝐭𝐚𝐤𝐞𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫' 𝐜𝐨𝐮𝐥𝐝 𝐜𝐨𝐬𝐭 𝐚 𝐅𝐥𝐨𝐫𝐢𝐝𝐚 𝐜𝐨𝐥𝐥𝐞𝐠𝐞 $𝟐𝟗 𝐦𝐢𝐥𝐥𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐢𝐧 𝐝𝐨𝐧𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬
https://www.alternet.org/ron-desantis-hostile-takeover-is-causing-a-florida-college-29-million-in-donations-report/
Charming. Apparently, to butcher an old Barry Goldwater quote: Dishonesty in the pursuit of castigating the LGBTQ+ community is no vice. At least it isn't in the eyes of Ms. Tomeo or those who promoted her badly-conceived piece. Yet over 20 years later, people are still hanging their hat on this bit of so-called "research" as a reason to justify their bigotry. Once again, the whiff of desperation on the part of those right-wing reactionaries who would have us discount but dismiss our community is strong enough that one could be tempted to resort to nose plugs. Dr. Throckmorton clearly understood this in his response, but I can't help but notice that no one, certainly none on Ms. Tomeo's side of the argument, has either noticed or expressed concern.
Thankfully, at least Hemant has called bullshit here and rightly so. What we need now are a LOT more people like him, doing the same thing.
OT: Happy π day!
(My computer reminded me.)
O/T: Hillsong accused of spending that ‘would embarrass a Kardashian’
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2023/03/09/andrew-wilkie-hillsong/
"This is a paper that failed a basic division test, yet it was lauded by conservatives..."
Arithmetic is just somebody's opinion, isn't it?
The party of personal liberty and freedom seems to have alot of problems with other people's exercise of their personal liberty and freedom. Of course, it all stems from their Jesus (/Allah/Yahweh) Delusion. Religion is what ensures non-acceptance of reality. Thanks, Paul--you done good.
Anyone who believes anything Joe Rogan says is a complete idiot. If he said the sky was blue, I would go outside to check.