AAAANNDD... Cue the inevitable "They shouldn't call themselves satanists" commenters. "If they'd just call themselves 'The Church of Cute Little Ducklings' there wouldn't be a problem. I get what they're trying to do, but this isn't the way to do it."
They obviously DON'T get what TST is trying to do, but I'm fresh out of ways to try to convince them of it.
Good, making it cost money is probably the only way to get rid of this nonsense. We desperately need to remind people the US has a secular government before we don't anymore.
Here we go again, I guess, Christian privilege against a secular religion that makes those same Christians uncomfortable. I'm not a Satanist, myself, but if someone wants to say, "Hail Satan," that's his trip. I might just respond with: "Rock and roll, dude!"
Sadly, the christers will insist on getting bent out of shape, and I'm personally dubious that Mr. Vavrick will ever be able to give his invocation. Their loss.
Ah, yes, the idea that equality is 'only for people I don't object to' thing. Lots of that going around these days.
As discussed many, many, many times on FA, curtailing the invocation is the way to go for any number of reasons. These invocations are divisive, exclusionary, and get in the way of whatever business the council should be addressing with its time; to say nothing of the point that such public prayers are dubious in the most commonly seen Christian tradition anyway. At this point, I'm regarding this as an essential failure of faith by the Christian community since I can't remember the last time I saw or heard a Christian telling another Christian to stop with the public prayers. They really just don't care about what their own scriptures say, they're going to be Christian in whatever way they think suits them best.
This is why nobody wants to go to church anymore. When you get religion shoved in your face all the time whether you want it or not, going voluntarily seems like overkill.
" “Once I learned that he wanted to end his convocation with ‘Hail Satan’ it ceased being something I could support,” La Spata wrote in the email."
The Christian Fucking Privilege out there in the open, with a paper trail. This official needs to be removed from office. At the next election, if not sooner.
I get what The Satanic Temple is doing here. They are pointing out how inappropriate it is for public meetings to open with an invocation of any kind. We are supposed to have secular government, and religion has no role to play in it.
I always thought it would be hilarious to give an invocation at a public event by quoting the part about praying in one’s closet. That would be my entire invocation. Or maybe append a plea to Jesus to help us not pray in public.
I'm curious if it's just Satanists being denied or if Hindu, Buddhist, Muslim, Jewish, Wiccan, or any of the many less well-known religions of which I'm ignorant of have also been denied.
AAAANNDD... Cue the inevitable "They shouldn't call themselves satanists" commenters. "If they'd just call themselves 'The Church of Cute Little Ducklings' there wouldn't be a problem. I get what they're trying to do, but this isn't the way to do it."
They obviously DON'T get what TST is trying to do, but I'm fresh out of ways to try to convince them of it.
Good, making it cost money is probably the only way to get rid of this nonsense. We desperately need to remind people the US has a secular government before we don't anymore.
Here we go again, I guess, Christian privilege against a secular religion that makes those same Christians uncomfortable. I'm not a Satanist, myself, but if someone wants to say, "Hail Satan," that's his trip. I might just respond with: "Rock and roll, dude!"
Sadly, the christers will insist on getting bent out of shape, and I'm personally dubious that Mr. Vavrick will ever be able to give his invocation. Their loss.
Not only should the invocation be read, but this article as well!
Good!
Religious freedom, Christians. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Ah, yes, the idea that equality is 'only for people I don't object to' thing. Lots of that going around these days.
As discussed many, many, many times on FA, curtailing the invocation is the way to go for any number of reasons. These invocations are divisive, exclusionary, and get in the way of whatever business the council should be addressing with its time; to say nothing of the point that such public prayers are dubious in the most commonly seen Christian tradition anyway. At this point, I'm regarding this as an essential failure of faith by the Christian community since I can't remember the last time I saw or heard a Christian telling another Christian to stop with the public prayers. They really just don't care about what their own scriptures say, they're going to be Christian in whatever way they think suits them best.
This is why nobody wants to go to church anymore. When you get religion shoved in your face all the time whether you want it or not, going voluntarily seems like overkill.
The Satanic Temple is an awesome civil rights group.
https://media2.giphy.com/media/hNj7x7JMQI1qg/giphy.gif
Watching theocrats shit bricks over TST will never not be funny.
" “Once I learned that he wanted to end his convocation with ‘Hail Satan’ it ceased being something I could support,” La Spata wrote in the email."
The Christian Fucking Privilege out there in the open, with a paper trail. This official needs to be removed from office. At the next election, if not sooner.
I get what The Satanic Temple is doing here. They are pointing out how inappropriate it is for public meetings to open with an invocation of any kind. We are supposed to have secular government, and religion has no role to play in it.
Cross-posting:
I always thought it would be hilarious to give an invocation at a public event by quoting the part about praying in one’s closet. That would be my entire invocation. Or maybe append a plea to Jesus to help us not pray in public.
The holiday display in the photo is inspired! Also the black attire.
Ave Satanas.
I'm curious if it's just Satanists being denied or if Hindu, Buddhist, Muslim, Jewish, Wiccan, or any of the many less well-known religions of which I'm ignorant of have also been denied.
OT - Speaking of cartoon logic
𝐁𝐨𝐞𝐛𝐞𝐫𝐭 𝐜𝐥𝐚𝐢𝐦𝐬 𝐛𝐢𝐫𝐭𝐡 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐨𝐥 𝐭𝐨𝐨 𝐞𝐱𝐩𝐞𝐧𝐬𝐢𝐯𝐞 𝐢𝐧 𝐝𝐫𝐮𝐠 𝐩𝐫𝐢𝐜𝐞 𝐡𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐠: ‘𝐈𝐭'𝐬 𝐜𝐡𝐞𝐚𝐩𝐞𝐫 𝐭𝐨 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐚 𝐤𝐢𝐝'
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/boebert-claims-birth-control-too-expensive-in-drug-price-hearing-it-s-cheaper-to-have-a-kid/ar-AA1bBftw
"Jesus Christ, enough already." -- Jesus (God), heard mumbling to Pat Robertson last Monday afternoon.