I am Jewish. I would not be nearly as patient as the atheist if my kids were subjected to this kind of peer pressure. Perhaps if the school district had to pay out a significant sum for what amounts to discriminatory behavior, they would take appropriate action. And this IS a form of discrimination.
I have found that it is nearly impossible to restrain these irrational zealots who believe that they are doing the work of their deity. Let this schmuck drive a bus for a Christian school. Problem solved. In his current position, he is breaking the law. The school district is allowing him to break the law without apparent consequences.
The person driving my little girls to school is trying to convert them to their death-cult? That's a nope. Think about the times people saw Muslims praying before they got on a flight after 9/11 and what that reaction was.
The people who don't have a problem with what this bus driver was doing would lose their tiny little minds at the mere suggestion a Muslim bus driver be allowed to do the same thing. Conservative Christians can NEVER stop trying to mark their territory in the public schools paid for with everyone's tax dollars. Why is it ever acceptable to present things to children as facts that an educated adult would most likely reject if hearing them for the first time?
"Continues?!?" Hell, the bus driver's behavior is already established with the kid's video recording of the driver's violations. That the ACLU has been brought in is further indication that something is seriously wrong here. Were it me, I'd at least contact the Freedom From Religion Foundation and possibly American Atheists, if it became evident that the school system were reticent to take appropriate action.
It's bad enough that proselytism of adults goes on in the 21st century. That some hotshot bus driver feels as though he can do that with KIDS and get away with it is far worse. 𝗧𝗛𝗥𝗢𝗪 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗙𝗥𝗘𝗔𝗞𝗜𝗡𝗚 𝗕𝗢𝗢𝗞 𝗔𝗧 𝗛𝗜𝗠!
Bus drivers of all kinds are required to pay attention to their driving duties and keep back-and-forth interaction to a minimum in order to avoid accidents.
Wonder if they can they get him for distracted driving?
Call me suspicious or overly conspiracy-minded if you must, but I can't help wondering how many other school bus drivers in the district are doing this.. The idea that this one cluck is the only miscreant is as incredible as anything in the bible. He's the only one who's been caught, that's all. And I also have to wonder if the "no taking video on buses" rule was put in place precisely to protect jerks like this. guy.
It's going to take a lawsuit to stop this, naming the driver, his assistant, the local School Board, and the state Department of Education as defendants.
We've seen this incorrigible Christian privilege over and over in public institutions of all kinds: Proselytizing Christians break the law, and their administrations ignore it, minimize it, rationalize and excuse it, then take feeble and ineffective corrective action, and finally transfer the offender to some other place where they'll just continue the offence.
Passive-aggressive delay, delay, delay. They hope those who are complaining give up or die of old age before they have to actually obey and enforce the law. You can spend months or years playing their games, or you can just get right to it NOW and sue them. Nothing but force will get them to follow the law.
Then you'll have to watch them for years, because as soon as they think nobody's watching anymore, they'll sneakily start it again.
The only way the christer cult can survive in the modern era is by grooming children. Parents who are paying attention should be concerned since it is not drag queens or trans people grooming and assaulting their children but christians.
The driver and the assistant need to be replaced. Moving them to another route is just the school trying to find the bus that will not complain, rather than address the illegal behavior.
Of course, if they fire the driver and/or assistant they will sue for violating their first amendment rights, nevermind their actions are that of the state forcing religion on students. In this case the students’ rights are priority over the government workers’ and the government workers’ do not have the right to force participation in their religion, and are, in fact, directly restricted from doing so. They’ll still sue, and appeal, and appeal, and appeal until it reaches the SCROTUS who will decide for them despite two hundred years of legal precedent. Because that’s what they were installed, and paid copious amounts of bribe money for.
Of course there is a double standard as Hemant points out had it been a Satanist group or some Islam preaching going on. But because it was "Christian", the school wanted to give the guy a free pass. I would be one pissed off citizen if my child was subjugated to this forced hokum.
I like my bus drivers to concentrate on, you know, driving the bus.
The assistant needs fired too.
If the driver loses his job he could always become a youth pastor.
I am Jewish. I would not be nearly as patient as the atheist if my kids were subjected to this kind of peer pressure. Perhaps if the school district had to pay out a significant sum for what amounts to discriminatory behavior, they would take appropriate action. And this IS a form of discrimination.
I have found that it is nearly impossible to restrain these irrational zealots who believe that they are doing the work of their deity. Let this schmuck drive a bus for a Christian school. Problem solved. In his current position, he is breaking the law. The school district is allowing him to break the law without apparent consequences.
The person driving my little girls to school is trying to convert them to their death-cult? That's a nope. Think about the times people saw Muslims praying before they got on a flight after 9/11 and what that reaction was.
The people who don't have a problem with what this bus driver was doing would lose their tiny little minds at the mere suggestion a Muslim bus driver be allowed to do the same thing. Conservative Christians can NEVER stop trying to mark their territory in the public schools paid for with everyone's tax dollars. Why is it ever acceptable to present things to children as facts that an educated adult would most likely reject if hearing them for the first time?
𝐼𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑓𝑖𝑛𝑑 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑑𝑟𝑖𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑖𝑛𝑣𝑜𝑘𝑒𝑑 𝑟𝑒𝑙𝑖𝑔𝑖𝑜𝑛, 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑠𝑖𝑔𝑛 ℎ𝑖𝑚 𝑡𝑜 𝑎𝑛𝑜𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑟 𝑟𝑜𝑢𝑡𝑒. 𝐼𝑓 ℎ𝑒 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑢𝑒𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑖𝑛𝑣𝑜𝑘𝑒 𝑟𝑒𝑙𝑖𝑔𝑖𝑜𝑛, 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑒𝑚𝑎𝑖𝑙 𝑠𝑎𝑖𝑑, ℎ𝑒 𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑙𝑑 𝑙𝑜𝑠𝑒 ℎ𝑖𝑠 𝑗𝑜𝑏.
"Continues?!?" Hell, the bus driver's behavior is already established with the kid's video recording of the driver's violations. That the ACLU has been brought in is further indication that something is seriously wrong here. Were it me, I'd at least contact the Freedom From Religion Foundation and possibly American Atheists, if it became evident that the school system were reticent to take appropriate action.
It's bad enough that proselytism of adults goes on in the 21st century. That some hotshot bus driver feels as though he can do that with KIDS and get away with it is far worse. 𝗧𝗛𝗥𝗢𝗪 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗙𝗥𝗘𝗔𝗞𝗜𝗡𝗚 𝗕𝗢𝗢𝗞 𝗔𝗧 𝗛𝗜𝗠!
Bus drivers of all kinds are required to pay attention to their driving duties and keep back-and-forth interaction to a minimum in order to avoid accidents.
Wonder if they can they get him for distracted driving?
Call me suspicious or overly conspiracy-minded if you must, but I can't help wondering how many other school bus drivers in the district are doing this.. The idea that this one cluck is the only miscreant is as incredible as anything in the bible. He's the only one who's been caught, that's all. And I also have to wonder if the "no taking video on buses" rule was put in place precisely to protect jerks like this. guy.
It's going to take a lawsuit to stop this, naming the driver, his assistant, the local School Board, and the state Department of Education as defendants.
We've seen this incorrigible Christian privilege over and over in public institutions of all kinds: Proselytizing Christians break the law, and their administrations ignore it, minimize it, rationalize and excuse it, then take feeble and ineffective corrective action, and finally transfer the offender to some other place where they'll just continue the offence.
Passive-aggressive delay, delay, delay. They hope those who are complaining give up or die of old age before they have to actually obey and enforce the law. You can spend months or years playing their games, or you can just get right to it NOW and sue them. Nothing but force will get them to follow the law.
Then you'll have to watch them for years, because as soon as they think nobody's watching anymore, they'll sneakily start it again.
Everything is getting weirder all the time. Bus drivers just yelled at us to sit down and shut up when I was a kid.
The only way the christer cult can survive in the modern era is by grooming children. Parents who are paying attention should be concerned since it is not drag queens or trans people grooming and assaulting their children but christians.
https://www.joemygod.com/tag/molestation/
The driver and the assistant need to be replaced. Moving them to another route is just the school trying to find the bus that will not complain, rather than address the illegal behavior.
Of course, if they fire the driver and/or assistant they will sue for violating their first amendment rights, nevermind their actions are that of the state forcing religion on students. In this case the students’ rights are priority over the government workers’ and the government workers’ do not have the right to force participation in their religion, and are, in fact, directly restricted from doing so. They’ll still sue, and appeal, and appeal, and appeal until it reaches the SCROTUS who will decide for them despite two hundred years of legal precedent. Because that’s what they were installed, and paid copious amounts of bribe money for.
New in book stores this June, Mo Willems' next series of children's books! "Don't let the Fundie drive the bus." Underwritten by The Satanic Temple.
I don't care what the bus driver believes. I just want them to do their job and just 𝘥𝘳𝘪𝘷𝘦 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘧𝘶𝘤𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘣𝘶𝘴.
Of course there is a double standard as Hemant points out had it been a Satanist group or some Islam preaching going on. But because it was "Christian", the school wanted to give the guy a free pass. I would be one pissed off citizen if my child was subjugated to this forced hokum.
Nope, not today. Today I'm going to go read about puppies, thanks. My blood pressure went up just reading the damn title.