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Bill Bryson famously wrote

“ The bigger danger for Tennesseans is not that they might be descended from apes, but that they might be overtaken by them”.

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Ah, a challenge to Obergefell. Just what the bigots on SCOTUS have been waiting for.

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"You can just imagine the outcry if, in the future, a Muslim clerk in Tennessee...."

That's quite the imagination you have there.

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So many possibilities. Catholic clerks refusing to recognize marriages where one of the parties was divorced (even if neither party is Catholic). Orthodox Jewish clerks refusing to solemnize intermarriages. Hindu clerks refusing to register marriages between Hindus of different castes. Muslim clerks refusing to allow Muslim women to marry non-Muslim men, while permitting the reverse. So much religious freedom. Wow.

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This is designed to be a lawsuit. One that they will appeal as long as they can to hopefully, and very likely, get to the SCROTUS in order for the SCROTUS to overturn Obergefell.

Same with the rest of the hateful legislation being passed in TN and FL and other red and gerrymandered purple states.

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Mar 9, 2023·edited Mar 9, 2023

What's the qualification to be a county clerk in Tennessee ?

From this bill, would it be legal for me to refuse to sign any marriage license ? I am anti marriage (not a joke).

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Mar 9, 2023·edited Mar 9, 2023

“𝑊ℎ𝑒𝑛 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑙𝑜𝑜𝑘 𝑎𝑡 𝑠𝑜𝑚𝑒 𝑜𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑎𝑟𝑐ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 𝑤𝑒 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑓𝑜𝑢𝑛𝑑 𝑜𝑛 𝑡ℎ𝑖𝑠, 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑡 … 𝑦𝑜𝑢𝑛𝑔 𝑓𝑜𝑙𝑘𝑠 𝑎𝑟𝑒 𝑡𝑟𝑦𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑡𝑜 𝑚𝑎𝑟𝑟𝑦 𝑜𝑙𝑑𝑒𝑟 𝑓𝑜𝑙𝑘𝑠 𝑡𝑜 𝑔𝑒𝑡 𝑡𝑜 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑖𝑟 𝑓𝑖𝑛𝑎𝑛𝑐𝑖𝑎𝑙 𝑎𝑐𝑐𝑜𝑢𝑛𝑡𝑠,”

In theory this makes the lawsuit easier, since he's saying *the state can refuse the license*, not that the clerk's office will find an alternate person to stamp your paperwork. So this is not a reasonable accommodation, it's a refusal of service.

AFAIK the 'full, free consent' notion already covers when one party is coercing or manipulating the other. So for example if one of you is drunk, the state can say come back when you're sober. No extra law is needed to let the state refuse service when some gold digger takes granny off her meds and wheels her, incoherent, to the state house. And if extra laws on that are needed, they certainly wouldn't have anything to do with the clerk's religion.

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Isn't it nice to know that Tennessee is just as lacking in brains as it is in beaches?

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How I'd love to see the FFRF become involved if someone in the Volunteer State seeks their help on this.

Also put Americans United For Separation of Church and State in the picture.

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If a thrice divorced clerk isn't a good enough judge of who should or should not be married, then who is???

(Not a serious question, I just wanted to use the word "thrice".)

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IF kkkristers want a marriage license they must prove they attended church a minimum of 150 Sundays over the last 3 years. That should pretty much stop marriage.

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"...[A] self-described 'Christian Constitutional Conservative Republican." Why not just say "Republican?" It's the same thing.

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OT: We have still more proof that it's gay men who groom children for sex, not Republicans. Because Republicans would never, ever do that, not even one tiny little bit.

https://www.wonkette.com/west-virginia-republicans-will-not-be-denied-their-child-brides

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Mar 9, 2023·edited Mar 9, 2023

To the county clucks in Davy Crockett territory...

It's very simple. If you can't do the job you were elected/appointed to do because of your "sincerely"-held religious beliefs, then step down and become ministers. Or monks. Let's see just how truly sincere those beliefs of yours are.

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Mar 9, 2023·edited Mar 9, 2023

O/T Moscow Mitch fell in his hotel room at the former Trump International Hotel and landed in the hospital. Thoughts and prayers, Mitch--meaning, I have nothing to offer you! What a fitting irony. This is the hotel in DC that foreign dignitaries stayed at in order to funnel money to Trump in plain sight, flouting the Emoluments clause of the Constitution--you know, that document that Republicans deem #2 after 'The Bible.'

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A surge of sugar babies in Tennessee? Is there an international airport there? Asking for a friend.

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